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Because Arguing on Fanficrants Is a Waste of Time - a Poll
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Over on fanficrants an argument is raging over the use of the phrase, "another think coming," as in "If he thought that, he had another think coming." Apparently, a large number of people have always believed and used "another thing coming" even if the first part of the phrase is retained.

So, a poll:

Poll #1659622 Think or thing

Is the phrase "another think coming" or "another thing coming"

Think
42(71.2%)
Thing
14(23.7%)
Either
2(3.4%)
Never heard of it
0(0.0%)
Who cares?
1(1.7%)
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And don't get me started on 'All mouth and no trousers'!

Grey tokes from Lidl eggcorns go....

"He was so annoying with his use of the wrong words that his friends clubbed together - and hit him with it."

Yes, I'm afraid so.

However, the demographic on fanficrants is much younger and more American based than on this LJ. I really ought to just go to watching (there are some wonderful train-crashes) just to stop myself being tempted to add my twopenneth.

Never heard of the phrase. So at least I learnt something(k). :P

It's very colloquial and no longer widely used. I can't remember where I heard or read it first, but I am pretty sure it originated in the States, and I've seen/heard it used most in hard-boiled detective.

It really has spawned the most amazing argument, hasn't it?

Some people are getting ridiculously upset about it. It's basically a mishearing that has found its way into print, like "could of" -- but when I pointed this out, I got 500 word rants on how the two could not be equated!

or at least so goes the Judas Priest song - I don't think I've heard anyone actually say it.

Is that in the printed lyrics? Because the whole problem stems from an original mishearing.

Eh? Why would anyone say "think" there?

How can you possibly have another think coming, might I axe? :P

I hardly think it originates in the states. It seems pretty English doesn't it? I can easily imagine teachers saying "if you do that boy, you've got another thing coming". The "thing" being a punishment of some sort. The "think"? I'm not sure what that could be...

He has a thought, but when circumstances change, so will the thought. That's the origin, and the 'think' version is recorded as older, as even those arguing for 'thing' admit.

You can also, colloquially, "Sit and have a think." (Yes, it's in the dictionary.) Then there is, "Sometimes I sits and thinks and sometimes I just sits."

in the 'don't get me started': free reign. Because reins are a dead metaphor.

God, that reign/rein makes me so cross. I had an editor try to correct my phrase 'he reined in his temper' to 'reigned in'. I explained to her that reign is what monarch do and reins are controlling/steering tools used by a horse-rider, and hence, by a lateral step, by someone controlling their temper. That was one editorial requirement I refused to accept.

HAs to be think. And surely it's English. I'm in my country estates and can't dig out my dictionary of slang.

I'll pop downstairs and have a look in Partridge.

I really don't get why there are people asking "what's the thing?"

It's like they've never heard of the phrase "and another thing..."

Because in the phrase "another thing" a separate thing has already been mentioned. In the phrase "If he thought that, he has another thing coming," (which is also ungrammatical) the two phrases are totally unconnected. There is no first thing.

It may well be a US expression. I've heard it a lot. It's deliberately ungrammatical for humorous effect.

And while I can stand people believing otherwise because it is what they have always used, holding onto that belief in the face of clear evidence to the contrary and indeed basic common sense is how Sarah Palin ended up a Vice Presidential candidate.

I refuse to get embroiled in fanficrants any more than I have to, but it sounds even here as though you've put the cat among the pigeons. Why yes, I *am* pulling another Olde Englishe colloquialism out of the hat there. ;-D

I am, of course, very firmly in the 'think' camp.

The person I feel sorry for is the OP, who really does not deserve the flack she's getting, as she was right.

It strikes me as being US southern. It has the same colloquial feel. My grandmother used to employ it in the full form -- "And if you think that, young lady, you have another think coming." The idea was to rethink the initial think ... uh, thought.

But never let facts get in the way of a good fandom bar fight.

But never let facts get in the way of a good fandom bar fight.

Indeed.

I am annoyed that I can't, for the moment, find the originating location. *grumbles*

Bonkers, totally bonkers. Hence why I avoid that comm like the plague.

Occasionally, you learn things. Mostly, though, to keep out of the cat-fights.

And metafandom is far, far worse.


Edited at 2010-12-22 12:57 pm (UTC)

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