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I'm not a Tory, but please to be remembering that more people voted for them, particularly in England, than voted either Labour or Liberal.

Please to be remembering that Lib-Dem policies are no more like New Labour policies than they are like Conservative policies.

Likewise, a 'rainbow' coalition proved to be impossible in that the Scots Nats will not work with anyone, particularly Labour.

Finally, the whole point about a coalition government is the avoidance of extremes. In this I include policies from all three major parties.

I am waiting now to see what agreement, if any, has been reached between the Lib Dems and the Tories. The rumours are that these include the Tories going with the return of the £10,000 tax free band. and with the (indefinite) postponement of the raising of the inheritance tax threshold. If so, great. These, like the end of ID cards, are priorities for me, too. The Lib Dems seem to have agreed to support Tory tax/cuts now policies. This is not such a large move for them. Whether this is the right policy or not I do not know, but Gordon got us into this, so I am more than happy to see someone else try to get us out.

Right now, though, I don't know if these rumours are true or someone is fantasising at the Beeb. There is nothing to do right now but wait and see.

Great to see the back of Brown, but the current Labour front bench is not hopeful.

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I'm not wild about this coalition, but I'd have been marginally unhappier with a Lib-Lab pact. I think Labour now need to re-group and ditch the Blairite stuff.

On that we agree absolutely.

I'm trying to be positive and think that it's a chance for the left to regroup and shake off the dubious influence of Blair and Brown. And one politician -- forget who -- said that Labour should sit back and watch the Tories and the Lib Dems sink as they try to sort out the mess.

The danger with that is that if they do sort it out, it's going to be the Maggie years all over again, because Cameron will get the credit.

True . . . But I'm not convinced he's got the critical mass of his party behind him. Be interesting to see if he dumps the hideous Osborne and makes Vince Cable chancellor.

No-one has the critical mass of his party behind him at the moment.

The most likely scenario I've seen proposed so far is that all three major parties will go into meltdown, split and regroup in a very different pattern.

Of course, this means that the right wing will probably get in, because there does seem to be a centre right majority in the country. (Because despite what a lot of my flist are saying, New Labour have been effectively centre right for some time.)

And no one has the critical mass of the country behind them, so how long a minority government can brazen things out becomes interesting.

Hmm, I don't know about the regrouping. It would make some sort of sense for the old Tory right to flounce off with UKIP. But I can't see they'd be electable any time soon. I think a centre right party, with elements of New Labour is more likely. But then the Lib Dems have been substantially to the left of New Labour for some time.

The interesting thing about the Lib Dems is that on some social policies (things like education and ID cards) they are often closer to the Cameron wing of the Tories than they are to Brown wing of Labour.

Although you'd expect a Tory party to be pro-ID cards in many ways, particularly if they can tie them in to immigration . . .

I gather that, realistically, the Tories are aware of the fact that government computer systems are invariably underfunded and don't work (I have a lot of experience of this.) They don't trust the Civil Service with their data and, to be frank, as an ex-Civil Servant, nor do I.

Ah, now, that's *very* interesting and explains a hell of a lot.

You have to understand that Labour ministers are almost invariably computer (and technology) illiterates and believe what commercial organisations tell them. It does not help that this is also true of many senior Civil Servant.

(I suspect it is also true of many senior executives in the Private Sector too, but cannot speak from personal experience.)

This is undoubtedly true of many front bench Tories, too, but they understand the concept of government waste all too well, and some of them are also instinctive Libertarians. Of course, some of them are also instinctive fascists, but they can always be baited by "government waste" too.

Bum. BBC rumour is that Cable will be his no. 2. I wouldn't trust Osborne with the milk money.

Labour had to go. Brown supported Blair in an illegal war influenced by religion (Bush's and Blair's), so he deserved to go. That was the point at which I vowed not to vote for them as a party until those responsible had gone.

Raccoons will ice-skate in hell before I vote Tory for many and varied reasons, so the LibDems got my vote almost by default. But I'm pleased that they will at least be able to exercise some restraint on the buggers.

And propping up a discredited Labour Govt would have been a bad thing all round.

And at least, on a minor matter, this coalition might well see the abolition of the dreadful, money-wasting, time-wasting Home Information packs. And on a bigger issue, if it ends ID cards, then GOOD.

And this is basically the only option. Everything else is unworkable or unacceptable to the general public. (A new election that would only make things worse.)

I must admit my opinon of Nick Clegg as a political operator has now gone up. He's got a lot more out of the Tories than he might have done, mainly by talking to Labour.

I can't imagine he ever seriously thought that propping up labour was the way to go, but a brief flirtation clearly brought the Tories back to the negotiating table. I'm actually pretty happy with Clegg as DP and some LibDems in the cabinet. The rest of the Tory cabinet pretty much sucks frogs, but that's only to be expected. But I am far, far happier with a Coalition than a straight win for either party.

Having just seen (and been stunned by) the policy list, I can tell you that Home Information Packs are on their way out, along with ID cards and biometric passports. And they're going to review both the Freedom of Information Act (to make it more open and accountable) and the libel laws with a view to defending Freedom of Speech!

Who'd've thunk it?

Losing HIPs will make me very happy indeed. They added nothing to the conveyancing process other than expense, and they played no useful part in the process. Losing ID cards is another huge bonus. Now if they scrap the Digital wotnot bill I'd be very pleased.

The last is Liberal policy.

Maybe they can convince the Tories in the end.

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